Sunday, July 15, 2007

Introduction

My name is Kenneth Yu. Thank you for reading this blog. I have been a South Burnaby resident for as long as I had lived in Canada. I believe in fighting for a cause and fighting for justice.



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This blog was created to present our side of the story in dealing with Morrey Nissan of Burnaby on our 2007 Altima 2.5SL lease. Keep in mind that though I tried to be as unbiased as possible, I am still susceptible to prejudice. Although I am confident in describing what exactly had transpired in the process, the narratives are written from my subjective point of view. Please use your discretion to digest and evaluate the information before forming an opinion. It is not my intention to harm the business practice of Morrey Nissan of Burnaby, whilst knowing this is potentially possible as a result of this blog. I am merely exercising my freedom of speech, protesting to them in a peaceful and lawful manner. If this blog presents incorrect information, please let me know and I will correct them accordingly.




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Or..please click and expand the menu on the right, read them in the following order:
05/13/07 --- As Returning Customers
05/17/07 --- Freight, $600
05/18/07 --- The Drama That Is Carlos
05/19/07 --- Kenneth V.S. Ken
06/10/07 --- Final Boss?
06/13/07 --- My Letters to the Morreys
06/21/07 --- Legal Contract
06/22/07 --- Final Ultimatum
06/24/07 --- Breath of Fresh Air
06/26/07 --- Jarrett's Response
06/27/07 --- Mistake Corrected
07/15/07 --- The End

The End

Ann has confirmed that the wrongful charge has been corrected and refunded. We can finally put this behind me now. Thanks for reading and remember to shop smart.

Wednesday, June 27, 2007

Mistake Corrected

I received this good news from Jarret Morrey today:


Hello Kenneth,

I have been successful to a point in getting Nissan to change the paper work on your friend's lease.

They have agreed to change the dates and redo the paper work. I have not heard back as to how they are planning to handle the first payment that already came out of your account.
One of two things will happen. Nissan will either credit back the amount taken and send you a cheque in the mail or just hold the credit in your account and apply it when the 'new' first payment is due. They will be the ones that will dictate what coarse will be chosen.

I will be in touch as soon as I know more.

Jarrett Morrey


Jarret is extremely efficient and kudos to Nissan Canada as well for settling this within a day. Looks like we can "almost" put this ordeal behind us now. However, this collective experience will remain online for all to see. I won't distribute the blog through mass internet media thought, only through word of mouth.

Continue to: 07/15/07 --- The End


Tuesday, June 26, 2007

Jarret's Response

Jarret Morrey was supposed to be back today according to the assistant. He promptly sent me an email an hour after he arrived at work:


Hello Kenneth,

I am back in the office as of an hour ago. I have reviewed you emails and would like to talk to you about this.

Please contact me at your convenience.

thank-you

Jarrett Morrey
*Dealership number goes here*


I was at work, so I could only call him during my breaks. During my afternoon break I was able to reach Jarret Morrey on phone.

Jarret was articulate, logical and polite. He was sympathetic and apologized to me many times for what had happened. He admitted that there was a problem with the contract. He believed it was definitely a clerical error, but he was still investigating how it lead to this. He also indicated that my letter did find its way to him and he had called a meeting to discuss this matter with all the staffs involved in the dealership. The staffs involved admitted no wrong and believed it was just our misconception that we felt mistreated. It was a rather pleasant conversation where he did most of the talking.

Jarret even offered to refund the $45 documentation processing fee to compensate for our frustration. I declined the offer and told him that I was not calling him to get more discounts. If that was indeed the standard processing fee across all Nissan dealers, it was only justified that we paid for it. All we wanted is to have the contract corrected according to the terms presented to us.

I think we're in a bit of a bind here. When the contract was signed, we become legally liable . Legally Morrey Nissan of Burnaby and Nissan Canada do not have to do anything for us. Though Jarret promised that he will dispute the contract with the Toronto headquarter, the outcome will be uncertain.

I am sure Morrey Nissan of Burnaby still has some good people. Charlie for one had been honest and offered great service to me and my friends. Jarrett was polite and wise as the owner. Sadly, the facts cannot be overlooked. My overall experience with Morrey Nissan of Burnaby has been extremely negative.

Continue to: 06/27/07---Mistake Corrected

Sunday, June 24, 2007

Breath of Fresh Air

Another coworker of mine asked me to find the wholesale price on a 2007 Versa CVT SL + Technology package, that her friend had just purchased.

They purchased it through Charlie from Morrey Nissan of Burnaby. After hearing that name I felt slightly relieved, but I still went ahead and used one of my 4 remaining reports. it turned out they had an incredible deal, in fact, an unbeatable deal within the lower mainland. They achieved it by pitting on dealer against another, forcing them to shave down their profit margins.

The ironic thing was, Charlie only asked for a measly $200 dollar deposit, a sign that it's a deal so good, either you have to take it or you leave. If you look at our $1000 deposit, it probably a good sign that the deal had gone horribly wrong.

Yet it's comforting to know that the person I trusted is still providing decent service to other people. As for the other sales/managers, I cannot say the same.

Continue to: 06/26/07---Jarrett's Response

Friday, June 22, 2007

Final Ultimatum

Here I am, awake at 1:30am, I got work in 7.5 hours, but I just couldn't sleep. I had to write this letter.


Dear Mr. Jarrett Morrey,

My name is Kenneth Yu. You may or may not remember me from two weeks ago when we picked up the black Altima 2.5S. I spoke to you briefly regarding the contradictory first payment term on our contract. I had also written a formal complaint letter mailed to both the Morrey seniors and Morrey juniors. I am sure you would have received my letter by now. If you have not, please let me know. I will send a registered mail to you or even hand-deliver it to you.

I am writing yet again with much disappointment. Today we had been notified by Nissan Canada that we are being billed for the lease on the 2-3 weeks that the car was in transport en route to the dealership. We picked up the car precisely on June 10th, 2007 and the contract was to be prepared and signed on the same date. It is unclear to me why the lease started while the car was in freight.

We had gone up the ladder from sales person Carlos to manager Ken, and eventually to manager Christina. None had offer the respect and the service we should've been entitled to as customers. This is why I am turning to you. If you cannot help us, we will be forced to look into other options. This ordeal has gone on for too long. I believe it is our best interests to settle the situation professionally and honestly.

You were unavailable by phone and the email address: jarrett@morreyauto.com given to me by the reception desk does not seem to work, therefore I am using your online email form. Please send me an reply with you direct extension when you have a solution. I will be at work tomorrow, but will become available after 430PM.


Sincerely,

Kenneth Yu


His assistant Nancy notified me at 9AM that Jarret will be out of town until Tuesday, June 26, 2007. Morrey auto just had a new online car sales. I believe the website was taken down for upgrade at the time.

Continue to: 06/24/07---Breath of Fresh Air

Thursday, June 21, 2007

Legal Contract

On June 21st, 2007, after work I was on a house-call to fix my friend's wireless network. Ann was going to have dinner with them that night as well. While I was there, Ann broke the stunning news to me. The contract that Christina didn't want to correct was in fact incorrect!

Here are some important dates:

May 13, 2007, Ann and her mom signed the first deal sheet.
May 16, 2007, Silver Altima was ordered. (according to Morrey)
May 18, 2007, Black Altima was ordered. (according to Morrey)
May 19, 2007, Ann and her mom signed the re-negotiated deal sheet.
June 9, 2007, Black Altima had arrived in dealership as promised.
June 10, 2007, Contract was signed and car picked up.

The car was in freight from the prairie regions from May 16th to June 9th.

Earlier today Ann received a statement from Nissan Canada to pay $500 dollars for the lease. The billing date as June 16th, 2007. She called Nissan to dispute that we had 1st month free according to our deal sheet the payment amount should've been the $45 processing fee only according to Christina. This was what Jarret Morrey agreed as well, despite the fact that Christina refused to change the contract.

Nissan Canada representative said that we did get 1st month free because the lease started on May 16th, 2007. On June 16th, 2007, we were already on the 2nd lease payment. On May 16th, the car started its journey from the prairie regions, it did not arrive at Morrey Nissan until 3 weeks later.

No wonder Christina was quick to grab that invoice from me, but her intentions may very well be explained by the current situation. I was furious beyond measure. How can you start charging someone on a lease when you don't even have the car in your possession?

This is completely unprofessional of Morrey Nissan of Burnaby. I tried to call Jarret Morrey directly but he was unavailable for assistance. The only thing in my mind now is to going to the media, but Jarret was a reason and polite gentleman for the brief minute we spoke. I thought I should give him a heads up.

Next to: 06/22/07---Final Ultimatum

Wednesday, June 13, 2007

Letter to the Morreys

I will only put the introduction and the conclusion of the letter. Since the main body is pretty much the same as what I had posted on each date.



Dear Mr. Gary and Lyle Morrey,

My name is Kenneth Yu. First I must thank you first for taking the time to read this lengthy letter. Please allow me to introduce myself so you will have an insight to how things transpired to this letter. Since my graduation from UBC Physics in ‘05 I have been working full-time to repay my student loan. As a requirement for my first job I purchased a 2005 Nissan Sentra SE from Morrey Nissan of Burnaby through the help of a friend who was in the business. The purchase process was relatively quick and painless. I had stood by Morrey Nissan of Burnaby because of this particular experience. You must know that I am the kind of person that puts other people’s needs before my own and justice before everything else. I believe your company has done great wrongs to your loyal customers.


the negotiation drama goes here...


It was unfortunate that the deal ended on a bad note. Based on Christina’s rude behaviour at signing alone, I will never return to Morrey Nissan of Burnaby again. Customer loyalty obviously meant nothing to the sales Carlos and the manager Ken as they tried to pitch ridiculous offers at inexperienced returning buyers. The hours I spent were only enough to bargain a deal that we could’ve easily gotten from Richmond Nissan within a 15 minutes over the phone. Without friendly service and competitive pricing, what more is left of Morrey Nissan but a hollow name?

A year ago, 7 weeks into my employment at *my employer's name goes here* I was awarded the “Spirit of Service” for my commitment to serving my peers. Your company has offended my dear friends and me personally. From now on I will pit my words against yours and see to it that no one should have to suffer such torture. I will not be afraid to share my unbiased experience with others. Of course, the choice will be up to them, but believe me; my words weight a lot more than those of your sales’ and managers’. Thank you again for reading this letter. If you feel that I had misrepresented the dealership’s integrity, please write me back.





I printed out three copies all addressed to the Morrey Seniors, Gary and Lyle. One directly mailed to their headquarter and the other two mailed to their branches c/o the Morrey Juniors. I hope the paper copies will weight more to them than a simple email transmission.

Continue to: 06/21/07---Legal Contract

Sunday, June 10, 2007

The Final Boss?

On June 10th, 2007. We had everything arranged for us to pick up the car today. I took my time on this beautiful Sunday to play basketball. I hadn't played basketball for a long time because of my weak ankle, but today I was kicking ass. My team won 5 straight before we headed to the dealership.

We were greeted by the salesperson Carlos with a big smile. He went over all the features and controls of the car and then we waited patiently to see the manager Christina to sign the lease contract. At this point we had already forgave Carlos for his ridiculous over-priced offer. He was probably just acting as a proxy for manager Ken. Carlos had to earn a living, too. We made excuses for them. All we have to do now was to sign the paper, and drive the car away.

That wasn't it. I sat silently in the corner of the office. Christina first asked Ann to initial and signed the contract. After it was signed she then introduced the never-mentioned-before $45 dollars processing fee and amount of $545 due at signing all together. It raised a question mark in my head. I indicated to her that the first month payment should’ve been free according to our deal sheet. She replied, “then it will only be $45 for the first month.” The biggest mistake we made was that we signed before reading the contract carefully.

After signing I picked up the contract so I can read it more carefully. She sharply raised her voice at me, “May I have that back please? That’s my copy. I will give you your copy if you want to read it.” I put the copy down and picked up the yellow copy. I read through the lines, but didn’t find the $45 fee. I asked her to please point out the $45 charge line to me. She replied indifferently, “I would’ve gone through it with you had you not grab the copy from me.” I found that hard to believe, she recited the additional charges at signing after everything was signed and showed no intention of providing explanations until confronted.

I leaned over toward Ann so we can read the contract more carefully together. I noticed that the air conditioning was on full blast blowing at Ann’s face. I asked Christina, “May I turn the AC the other way? It’s pointing at Ann’s face and she has a cold.” She bluntly replied, “Why would you do that? We’re done here. You’re just about to leave to see the insurance person anyway.” Ann’s sister Tina was still squinting at the fine lines on the contract and Christina asked to put it in an envelope for her. We sat there for another 30 seconds while she organized the paperwork under the full blast AC. While we waited for the insurance agent, I asked Carlos about the $545 initial payment. Carlos brought over the owner Jarrett Morrey. I explained to him how this binding contract could be used against Ann. Jarrett spoke to Christina. Again, Christina refused to make any modification to the binding contract even though it was contradictory to our terms. Jarrett assured us there was going to be no problem. It was just how paperwork was done.

That afternoon, we happily drove away with our Nissans. We decided it was the last we should ever see of Morrey Nissan of Burnaby. After a 3 weeks of frustration we had finally reached the conclusion of our car deal.

Upon reflection, it was probably a bad idea to go in my basketball gear. Christina may have thought I was disrespectful dressing in T-shirts and shorts. There was a bitter after taste and I had decided to write a letter to the Morreys on how I feel about their dealership.

Go on to: 06/13/07 ---Letters to the Morreys

Saturday, May 19, 2007

Kenneth V.S. Ken

On May 19th, 2007, I got up at 6am because I couldn't sleep. I began to go through websites after websites on car purchasing because I felt inadequate in this field. I came across CarCostCanada.com, a website that offered information of the dealership wholesale prices at an incentive. Within 2 minutes and 42 dollars later, my report was printed. I spent the rest of my early morning refining my understanding of lease terminology and procedures.

At 9:00AM I left to go to the dealership and stopped at my office to let Ken know that I was on my way. Ken refused to meet me in person; he claimed that he had no time for this meeting and that there was nobody higher than he was in the dealership to handle a situation like this. I just didn’t want to play phone tags hiding behind the false sense of security.

Eventually we compromised to speak on the phone. During the first 30 minutes of the conversation, Ken was insistent that it was already a done deal that nothing can be changed and he did not understand why we were even having this conversation or why I was involved as a family friend. After a heated conversation back and forth, he was only willing to add a $200 gas card from Petro Canada. I mentioned the report I had printed in the morning to him and I offered him $450, a reasonable 5% profit based on the wholesale price. Ken said the wholesale price was irrelevant to our deal. Also he had concluded that I was an “unreasonable customer that they were willing to lose. If I wanted to go somewhere else, I may do as I please”, but they will not return the deposit. I was shocked that he was willing to shut the door after giving almost no grounds even with the wholesale report in my hands.

Honest and naïve as I was, thinking that there was no reasoning with this guy, I started to look for a better quote with my new wholesale price report. I called Richmond Nissan and mentioned to the salesperson, Harrison, about the report and why I was calling him. Only that Harrison wasn't specialized in dealing with CarCostCanada deals. I asked him to try his best and indeed he did. He quoted me a $500/month lease price. It took less than 10 minutes. I didn't believe it, I asked Harrison to check the specification 3 times and see if I missed anything. It was a deal ready to go, $500/month, sign the paper and drive the car away, as Harrison put it. Surprisingly, Richmond Nissan only wanted a $500 deposit. I felt absolutely appalled by Ken's attitude just 10 minutes ago. Was I being unreasonable?

I called Ken back and quoted him that price. He gave out a long silence before he blurted, "I'm going have to look into this and I'll call you back." I left him with my direct extension. I sat back down to my desk and checked my email. The wholesale report has charged me on my credit card already. Then there was a second email from the provider. The wholesale report website had found me a real-time dealer who will honour the deal of $1050 above wholesale. I called Harrison with that detail. He wasn't too familiar with the pricing because he had never sold a car based on CarCostCanada report. Five minutes later he got an approval from his manager to lease the car to us for $480/month. I called Ken immediately, trying to inform him that he should put this new quote into his consideration. He wasn't available at the time so I left a message.

At 11:30AM he called me back. He sighed and said, "You know, we're gonna do it. We'll match their quote and I am afraid I can't get your that first payment and gas card since..." Before he could finish I cut him off and gave him the new $480/month quote that had been authorized by Richmond Nissan. He said, "Please stop playing this game...." I stopped there. He was now willing to put the free first lease payment and the gas card back on the table. We recited the terms: $500/month, tax-included, first month free - $500, and a $200 gas card at Petro Canada, no freight charge, and the car will arrive in 3 weeks time from the prairie region. The $480 deal from Richmond Nissan was still better, but I had a conscience and I believed Morrey Nissan of Burnaby incurred an expense of $700 to order the silver and the black car for us.

That day afternoon, Ann, her mom and myself went to the dealership to sign the new contract. Apparently there was some confusion, that we were only signing a deal-sheet, not a contract. Christina, the manager, sent us away with a piece of paper stating the terms both party had agreed to. We were to pick up the car 3 weeks from that day. Christina offered the top-off warranty on the last year of the lease that manufacturer’s warranty does not cover. We kindly declined, as we never purchased such warranty for our past leases. From that day on we were willing to put the past behind us. We sat at $500/month, tax included, first month free, 200 gas card, no freight.

Continue to: 06/10/07---Final Boss?

Friday, May 18, 2007

Drama That is Carlos

In the morning of May 18th, 2007, Carlos pitched me the 50/50 deal. He wanted us to absorb the $300 and I simply rejected the offer. At this point I had thought that Ann was to lease a loaded Altima 3.5SE based on the price I obtained on Nissan.ca. Carlos called back offering me another deal; the way he put it was delicate: Morrey Nissan would pay for the freight $600, but deduct $300 dollars from the $1000 deposit. I was surprised he would try to manipulate numbers against us.

A quick called made to Richmond Nissan proved to be timely. Richmond Nissan quoted me $580/month lease on a fully loaded, top of the line 2007 Altimate 3.5SE within 10 minutes. I asked Carlos again to speak to his manager Ken and call me back when they were ready to pay for the $600 freight transport. 20 minutes later Carlos called back all smiles that he had finally convinced the management to absorb the $600 freight. He asked for future referrals since he was losing money on this deal. We gave the okay to order the black car.

Another co-worker reminded me to get everything down in writing, so I asked Carlos to fax me the deal sheet that contained all the new terms. At 1pm I had the fax in my hands. It was not a copy of the deal sheet. It was a print out from the internal Nissan inventory site. On the side of the print out, it stated "ALTIMA 2.5 S" I was in disbelief. I called Richmond Nissan gave him the specs from the printout word by word. After 5 minutes, he quoted me the price $562 after tax. Common sense would tell you that a quote over the phone is the worst deal you can possibly get on a car. Apparently this was not the case even for a returning customer. We were at $588/month with no freight.

I called the Carlos once again. I confronted him with the quote of $562. He was speechless for a good while. He asked for a moment while he spoke to his manager. During my afternoon break Carlos called me back. They had determined that the $588 was a typographical error by the accountant and they were willing to make it right and offer us $565/month with no transport fee and no first payment. I asked him how he wanted make up for offering us the ridiculous deal initially. Carlos said that he could no longer make any decisions at this point and I'd have to speak to the manager Ken directly. I gladly took his advice and intended to speak to and possibly meet with the manager, Ken, the next morning.

At this point, according to Carlos, they had already purchased a silver and a black Altima for us, costing them $700 dollars. We are sitting at $565 / month with first payment free over 48 months lease at 3.5%. This was exactly the manufacturer's suggested retail price, after the 3rd negotiation.

Next to: 05/19/07--- Kenneth V.S. Ken

Thursday, May 17, 2007

Freight, $600

On May 17th, 2007, in the afternoon Ann received a call from the salesperson Carlos. He joyfully brought the news to Ann over the phone, "Ann! Good news! We had found you a silver car!" Ann was stunned, she didn't understand why Carlos was getting her a silver car instead of black. Carlos said that there was no black Altima in BC at the moment, shipping it from another province would take up to a month and there will be a $600 dollar freight charge, but he had successfully acquired a silver car and it'll be ready for pick-up in no time. Ann asked to call him back later.

I was chilling at my desk after work. I was to drop off some computer equipments that I no longer used to a friend at the nearby university. There was a few hours to kill before I could catch my bus. That was when I overheard Ann talking about the $600 dollars.

I grew a bit uneasy about her situation as I listened. As a family friend and coworker I volunteered to give Carlos a call to negotiate the $600 dollars freight charge. I argued a few points. First, Ann and her mom were never once notified that black was unavailable during the 2 hour negotiation. Second, they could've called us to tell us that our primary color black was unavailable before getting us a silver car. Carlos argued that black as not a primary color. He listed black and silver as two options, so if he found either one, he's fulfilled his duty. My objective was simple: I wanted to get rid of this $600 dollars. That was all I wanted. Carlos didn't budge so I told him he better talk to his manager and call me back when they had agreed to absorb this $600 charge.

At 7PM I hopped on the bus to SFU, I spent my whole night formulating strategies and back-up offers that could possibly help the negotiation on Friday.

Continue to 05/18/07--- Drama That Is Carlos

Sunday, May 13, 2007

As Returning Customer

On May 13th, 2007, Ann and her mom walked into Morrey Nissan of Burnaby in British Columbia, Canada. Ann and her family has had a long history with Nissan vehicles. This was going to be their forth Nissan and the second car from Morrey Nissan of Burnaby.

She was greeted by the salesperson Carlos. The last time Ann dealt with Nissan was through a salesperson named Charlie. Jimmy, a church friend was in the business at the time, so he arranged everything through the Charlie and his manager. It was a pleasant experience worth remembering.

Unfortunately, Charlie was unavailable that day. Ann and her mom instead dealt with Carlos, another salesperson from Morrey Nissan of Burnaby. After two hours of negotiation, Carlos convinced them that the price of $588 tax on a 48 months lease was a good deal for a few reasons. First, the first month lease payment was free. Second, he was giving them an absolutely wonderful deal. Ann questioned why it was a lot more expensive than their current Altima. Carlos countered that the price of Altima increased over the years. It's only normal.

The Nissan Canada advertised manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) price was $500 per month plus tax for lease over 48months. Carlos asked if Ann would like "the same item" as her last Altima. She thought if it was the same as her last Altima, it couldn't be wrong. Carlos never budged on the price. In the end, Ann and her mom settled for $588 after tax over 48 months with first payment free. Ann wanted a black Altima. Carlos manager Ken asked Carlos to get a second color so Ann gave silver as a secondary color. A $1000 deposit was put down on the deal.

Continue to 05/17/07--- Freight, $600